Face it, you paid far too much for a plastic gun. Hes talking about trial lawyers recruiting clients whove experienced negligent discharges with P320s and suing the gun manufacturer. So far I have only heard of one instance (post fix) where there was an ND and the post mortem on the gun demonstrating a mechanical failure. Use a proper holster and follow other gun safety protocols. Good thing you werent serious, thatd be terr..uh.oops. On Nov. 5, 2020, a recently-purchased SIG Sauer P320 pistol went off unexpectedly at a training range in Dwyer Hill, outside of Ottawa. The problem with Sig is with their polymer pistols. In 2020, the agent, who is a former marine, was doing his routine training with the P320. The drop-bang thing only happened at a very narrow event window, it was only once the Internet doom-preachers figured out that narrow window and did it over and over online did it appear to be a thing. Sig adapted and changed the pistol sufficiently to prevent even that issue. . What I can say is that article reads like a hit piece on the individuals who may or may not of made mistakes with their firearms from someone who worships at the alter of sig. I am also very much a DS9 fan, best series overall. You have entered an incorrect email address! And those are exactly the kinds of plaintiffs who happen to make up the vast majority of the lawsuits filed against SIG. Its difficult to believe thats a coincidence. I own Serpa holsters in multiple configurations (1911, Beretta 96, H&K, Springfield, etc) for most of the time theyve been around and I NEVER had an ND. Sig Sauer P320 (Christine Peterson/TNS) February 22, 2021 Ryan Morgan Gunmaker Sig Sauer is facing a new lawsuit from a U.S. federal agent who claims his holstered P320 pistol discharged without him pulling the trigger and struck him in his upper right hip. I know off body carry is a recipe for disaster. The lawsuit, filed Wednesday on behalf of . To be sure, Ive informally asked every other owner of a Serpa holster when I meet them, whether they have ever had an ND because of the holster. The round went downrange so nobody was hurt. The P320 should be scrapped and SIG Sauer USA should redesign a new pistol around the striker firing mechanism instead of just retrofitting a hammer fired pistol (P250). Thread starter ut755ln; Start date Oct 19, 2022; Forums. how do I get one for my P320? I dont own a P320. Is it? Additional questions about the Voluntary Upgrade Program are answered in the FAQ. Heres the version of the report that ran later that night, during ABCs Nightline program . That is exactly why all civilized countries have Government Agencies that monitor companies that have a callus disregard for human life and are only interested in the quick buck. ALL OF THEM. The cheap seats were $100-$200 and you got to watch Wrath of Khan with Shatner. Harrison stated that, I have not seen enough to convince me that the upgraded version is dangerous., When ABCs David Scott asked Harrison if its a mystery whats going wrong with the updated version though Harrison had just stated the upgraded pistol isnt dangerous Harrison said, I do not have an explanation for why the updated version should have complaints from trained individuals. First, clearing a loaded firearm with a finger over the muzzle doesnt exhibit even cursory adherence to the Four Rules. Both companies, instead, took to pro-gun industry forums to offer a rebuttal, giving no opportunity to answer questions. Harrison responded, No, I dont think the upgraded version should be recalled, in fact I think the previous version should be recalled so that everyone has the upgraded version.. I can say one thing for sure, the X on the side of the my is about is welcoming to me as grip zone was. Trigger is lighter than the Glock, it took years of aggressive training to reach the point of acceptable discharges with the Glock. Second, your claim that the military is dumping because theyre problematic? Thats the same. So your fanboy perjorative falls not only flat but false. (c) If conduct constituting an offense under this section also constitutes an offense under another . Give me a break. PDs are dropping them from contracts. TidalWave Professional Aug 25, 2021 #17 Bassbob said: Somehow I seriously doubt the guns just shot themselves. There are a few examples, I admitS&Ws M&P from around 2014 were near junk and I wouldnt have bothered to own one as a trotline weight, but apparently S&W had righted that ship since then. Effectively: you must be this dumb to get this job. The Milwaukee police department has had 3 incidents of the Sig discharging while being in a holster sitting in a patrol car in 2023. Theyve now come to the attention of the legacy media. The cost of settlements will be passed on to us. And the idea some random comment section P320 hater thinks theyre smarter & more knowledgeable than the Army, Navy, Airforce, Coast Guard and Marine Corp combined regarding military pistol selection is just freaking laughable! Miraculously, no one was hit by the bullet, which ricocheted around inside the vehicle. If the military was going to go cheap then they should have thrown Taurus into the mix. No autographs, No self taken pictures. None of the current lawsuits appear to be in any way related to the now-fixed drop safety issue and most, if not all of the allegations seem to involve upgraded pistols or those produced after the drop safety problem was identified by SIG. Manual safeties on pistols, hammer and striker fired systems were found necessary as far back as 1900. The hype leading up to the P365 was pretty intense and the LGS sold a bunch of those. Then after just three years without telling anyone they stopped all production including extra parts. While this incident occurred months ago, this erroneous media report is driven by multiple sources, including our competitors, and coincides with the imminent release of other Canadian military and law enforcement tenders, indicating the timing of its release is an attempt to improperly influence the procurements, the statement said. SIG just cannot seem to make a striker fired pistol that doesnt have issues. Glock is being sued too, because once loaded and a round is chambered, it also has a much lighter trigger than a DA/SA. Anyway my question for $600 would be: Did you have your 3rd wife killed? 3 disaster is true and if it is Sig will go all out to cover it up if it was. The modular SIG P320 is among the most widely-owned handguns on the planet. Was it his fault? And I suspect at end of day this recent P320 one will be identified as a negligent discharge or from weapons from 2017 where owners failed to . The military is much smarter and no, the gun is not junk. I have almost a hatred for Glocks but the one thing that they are is reliable. 19 Feb 2021 Military.com | By Matthew Cox A former U.S. Marine and federal agent has filed a $10 million lawsuit against Sig Sauer Inc. alleging that his holstered Sig P320 -- a pistol. (The defect couldnt be duplicated after the crash.). The latest of these suits was filed last week in US District Court in Massachusetts. RKC, the first time someone presented me with a 1911 whose trigger rivaled my Pythons single action, I started wondering about that. I bought a P320 and went through the voluntary upgrade. Before the madness SIGS were expensive. At least the Gorilla is still evolving while the Far Right proved to be an evolutionary dead end, one of natures mistakes. So I will just continue to carry Mexican style with my striker fired polymer wonder nine from a company that may or may not be SIG. A plastic gun that has a tendency to go off by itself. SIG Sauer, a German weapons maker with its U.S. headquarters in Newington, N.H., issued a statement Friday in response to a CBC News report earlier this week that revealed the Nov. 5, 2020, incident and the fact the weapon, the SIG P320, had been withdrawn from service while the military conducts an investigation. They are being replaced with Glocks. Hilton's $15 million lawsuit said, "there have been 54 reported uncommanded discharges of the P320," meaning the gun went off by itself, over the last five years in 22 states and Washington, D.C. . Folks disagree on brands. UPDATE:We were just made aware of YouTuber BoomStick Tactical who produced this video the day before our post published. Cars have so many electronics these days, who knows what could have gone wrong! The pistol is popular with commercial gun owners and law enforcement south of the border. He likens it to a bow-and-arrow, pulled taut. These officers are not gunfighters. Contacted late Friday, a spokeswoman for special forces said the investigation is still ongoing and would not confirm the companys findings. Right up front, the use of an ill-fitting/improper-for-the-gun holster instantly negates any idea of an unintended discharge being the fault of the design. My bet would be that someone had a fully loaded gun in a gym bag and a cloth or rag snagged the trigger. No you haters are not smarter than the US military, who tested the P320 far more than your favorite YouTuber ever did. Going on Sigs reputation I bought a P320. Nope. Really? If the latter were to occur, the drop safety would prevent discharge because it would not be pushed up by anything. I was tempted to buy one at one time but no more. Later when he was driving he shifted his weight and this caused the trigger to be pushed back further and it went off and shot him and the bullet then also blew a big hole in the floor board of this truck. Hey, Im glad theres somethings we agree on! And then theres Gunter Walker, a civilian, who says his P320 fired on its ownwhen he placed the weapon down on his nightstand, shooting him through the palm of his left hand.. That a shirt tail or jacket cinch cord slips into a holster. This is just blind greed using some careless doofus to sell a lie and cash in because a civil jury, like the average American voter, can be manipulated easily though emotion, tears and stories of anguish, pain and suffering at the foot of some super-rich evil corporations cold-blooded behest. I wont argue theyre wrong, I dont own one, dont want to. The probable reason that some folks are saying that the P320 is unsafe is that there was a lawsuit filed in federal court in July of 2020 (Guay v. Sig Sauer) alleging that the 320 fired "un-commanded" without a trigger pull while in a holster. Thats the American system at work in all its corrupt majesty. Note the addition of ominous background music in the second seven-minutes-longer version (there was no music in the Good Morning America version). Im more of a DS9 guy. The investigation revealed the use of an incorrect holster not designed for a [SIG] P320, said the statement, which was released Friday and posted to a U.S. online pro-industry publication, Soldier Systems. You need a lead that can be the lightening rod and not be afraid to make an ass of themselvesit give the watcher permission to take it seriously. No the devil went down to Georgia to learn how to play a fiddle. This leads me to conclude that the problem is not the gear but the moron using it. Ever since the internet went mainstream I have read about the Sigs decline. They've also been adopted as duty guns by law enforcement agencies across the country. Remember also that with a handful of notable exceptions, modern firearms do not just go off, no matter what is later claimed by those who may be held responsible. And have the dropping 320 go off? In 2021 you would think a company would understand MIM metallurgy. SIG ultimately settled that lawsuit. Why you and I are arguing over a gun that neither owns or will own, I would rather play handball with the Devil himself because if you deal with the Devil he will tell you that you agreed to lose your soul for a big box full of millions in cash. And it doesnt take too much Googling to find plenty of reports of LEOs suing the Georgia company as well (see here, here, here, and here for just a few). The Nightline segment includes an interview with Major Peter Villani, an expert (paid) witness for Hilton. Thats fine. You did get to sit and watch it with him, which leads to a serious question. When he put his hand on the grip, the weapon fired, according to the lawsuit. Second, pardon us if were more than a little skeptical that the P320 in question or any other handgun fired when it was out of battery. Everyone remember the video of the DEA agent shooting himself while explaining that he was highly qualified to carry a gun? The U.S. manufacturer went a step further in its statement Friday, stating without evidence or attribution, that the timing of the article was intended to undercut its chances in the federal governments upcoming bid to replace all of the handguns in both the military and RCMP. Theyre just on a 30 year nap hoping what they did will carry them forever.
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